Leo de Bever, who leads the C$70 billion (€46 billion; $67 billion) Alberta Investment Management Corporation, is building an investment team to make direct private equity investments, moving away from the traditional model of investing with external managers.
Leo de Bever
In an interview with sister publication PrivateEquityOnline.com, de Bever said he favours an in-house team for the asset class. “External managers get 2 percent no matter what,” he said. “I may be paying 4 percent every year on the amount of capital invested and no returns in the current environment. That’s a very painful way to invest, as opposed to my own guys who don’t start earning any money in terms of variable compensation until the asset does at least as well as comparable public markets.”
“It’s a crazy situation right now, the performance standards being applied to internal managers are orders of magnitude more strict and more demanding than what we expect from external managers,” he said.
The problem I’m wrestling with right now is that 75 percent of my cost is coming from 25 percent of my assets – the externally managed assets.
Leo de Bever
“The problem I’m wrestling with right now is that 75 percent of my cost is coming from 25 percent of my assets – the externally managed assets,” de Bever said. “I’m trying to improve on that cost equation. A dollar managed externally cost me nine times what it costs me internally.”
Alberta will still review opportunities to invest with external managers as a limited partner but will be patient and cautious about whom it chooses to manage its money.
“We’ll take our time and not do anything stupid,” de Bever said. “We’ll be very pragmatic about who is likely to create value for us and minimise exposure to anyone else.”
Alberta has invested in various fund managers, including The Blackstone Group, Apollo Management, The Carlyle Group, Centerbridge Partners, CVC Capital Partners, Hellman & Friedman, TPG and Permira.
A more extensive interview with de Bever will appear in the November issue of Private Equity International, sister magazine of InfrastructureInvestor.